<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Who Really Has The Power?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/</link>
	<description>A collaborative blog advocating ethics in adoption</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Nicki</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-133</guid>
		<description>These are really great points. I saw (and experienced first hand) this exact thing when Vietnam reopened. It is really hard - even impossible maybe - to do a really good research job on a new country program, a new agency, etc. And you are absolutely right - things that seem unethical to some may be standard operating procedure in many other countries. And of course, bottom line, anything worth doing involves risk. Nothing is guaranteed, no amount of research and preparation will guarantee a perfect experience. We can only do the best we can do with the resources available, learn from what we've experienced and share with others so they can do better.

I agree, it is MUCH easier to just move on. But it is important that we don't - for our children's sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are really great points. I saw (and experienced first hand) this exact thing when Vietnam reopened. It is really hard - even impossible maybe - to do a really good research job on a new country program, a new agency, etc. And you are absolutely right - things that seem unethical to some may be standard operating procedure in many other countries. And of course, bottom line, anything worth doing involves risk. Nothing is guaranteed, no amount of research and preparation will guarantee a perfect experience. We can only do the best we can do with the resources available, learn from what we&#8217;ve experienced and share with others so they can do better.</p>
<p>I agree, it is MUCH easier to just move on. But it is important that we don&#8217;t - for our children&#8217;s sake.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: map</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>map</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-132</guid>
		<description>I did not adopt from Vietnam but did adopt from another third world country. Other elements come into play too. I know I asked all the right questions and did my home work. What do you do when Agencies lie, situations change, and it is a new program without a long track record?

You finally travel to pick up your child, who is living in terrible conditions. The people seem nice enough but the poverty is so great you can see a lot of the children are not going to make it. You see other people's referrals. You know these people by now. Their children are also living in terrible conditions. Those people have not traveled yet. 

You may have a lot of questions about transparency but at the moment you have a half starved sick baby and you need pass the embassy interview to get the child home.  How ever this child has ended up where they are right now, the child needs you and no one else seems terribly interested in their welfare but you.

Then you get home and start questioning, and you get frantic calls and notes from all those waiting parents you have come to know and love; please please don't say anything until I get my child home. You saw my child, you know what this means to both of us. 

The foreign country looks like corruption has been a normal way of life for centuries. You wonder if this insistence on transparency, law, and fairness is yet another value you are forcing on another country that may not be interested in working that way. I can see where people say at that point "not my child".  At this point you have been jerked around by so many people, and governments, agencies, facilitators, bleed dry for every penny any one can get out of you and nothing is going to the children.  I think you tend to feel there is a lot more going on here then appears, you can't get a handle on things, and there is no black and white anymore. You don't want to get sued, you wonder if the rather scary embassy can continue to cause you problems over any irregularity. I can see where it is much easier to just move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not adopt from Vietnam but did adopt from another third world country. Other elements come into play too. I know I asked all the right questions and did my home work. What do you do when Agencies lie, situations change, and it is a new program without a long track record?</p>
<p>You finally travel to pick up your child, who is living in terrible conditions. The people seem nice enough but the poverty is so great you can see a lot of the children are not going to make it. You see other people&#8217;s referrals. You know these people by now. Their children are also living in terrible conditions. Those people have not traveled yet. </p>
<p>You may have a lot of questions about transparency but at the moment you have a half starved sick baby and you need pass the embassy interview to get the child home.  How ever this child has ended up where they are right now, the child needs you and no one else seems terribly interested in their welfare but you.</p>
<p>Then you get home and start questioning, and you get frantic calls and notes from all those waiting parents you have come to know and love; please please don&#8217;t say anything until I get my child home. You saw my child, you know what this means to both of us. </p>
<p>The foreign country looks like corruption has been a normal way of life for centuries. You wonder if this insistence on transparency, law, and fairness is yet another value you are forcing on another country that may not be interested in working that way. I can see where people say at that point &#8220;not my child&#8221;.  At this point you have been jerked around by so many people, and governments, agencies, facilitators, bleed dry for every penny any one can get out of you and nothing is going to the children.  I think you tend to feel there is a lot more going on here then appears, you can&#8217;t get a handle on things, and there is no black and white anymore. You don&#8217;t want to get sued, you wonder if the rather scary embassy can continue to cause you problems over any irregularity. I can see where it is much easier to just move on.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-119</guid>
		<description>I've thought much about this same thing myself!  Now that my daughter is home, I am both informed and passionate about ethical adoptions - specifically in Vietnam, but also about adoptions everywhere.  However, I feel powerless to do anything about it!  Any ideas for how to actually influence those who do have power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought much about this same thing myself!  Now that my daughter is home, I am both informed and passionate about ethical adoptions - specifically in Vietnam, but also about adoptions everywhere.  However, I feel powerless to do anything about it!  Any ideas for how to actually influence those who do have power?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-117</guid>
		<description>Christina, both this post and Nicki's last post have been great and very to the point.  What I've been pondering a lot recently is how to get this type of information out to those people in phase 1.  I am not so concerned about those PAP's who are willing to do their research, or even those who may not know all the issues, but are aware of the research options available to them.  (The willfully ignorant probably fall into the second category, but I'm pessimistic about changing anyone's mind there.)  But what about the PAP's who are completely clueless?  I've become aware of several people who are in varying stages of the process who are shocked that not all agencies are trustworthy...they just never contemplated the idea that adoption was not all about happy feelings and happy families.  Very often they are unaware of the various avenues for researching agencies as they don't use the computer very much.  And let's face it, unless you are on the internet looking for information, the more negative stuff is never going to find you.  So, how do we reach the people who don't know to jump on the computer and do some research?  I wish I had an answer...maybe someone else does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina, both this post and Nicki&#8217;s last post have been great and very to the point.  What I&#8217;ve been pondering a lot recently is how to get this type of information out to those people in phase 1.  I am not so concerned about those PAP&#8217;s who are willing to do their research, or even those who may not know all the issues, but are aware of the research options available to them.  (The willfully ignorant probably fall into the second category, but I&#8217;m pessimistic about changing anyone&#8217;s mind there.)  But what about the PAP&#8217;s who are completely clueless?  I&#8217;ve become aware of several people who are in varying stages of the process who are shocked that not all agencies are trustworthy&#8230;they just never contemplated the idea that adoption was not all about happy feelings and happy families.  Very often they are unaware of the various avenues for researching agencies as they don&#8217;t use the computer very much.  And let&#8217;s face it, unless you are on the internet looking for information, the more negative stuff is never going to find you.  So, how do we reach the people who don&#8217;t know to jump on the computer and do some research?  I wish I had an answer&#8230;maybe someone else does.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nicki</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2007/07/13/who-really-has-the-power/#comment-116</guid>
		<description>Perfect summary of the stages and the power available to every parent. I wish I had read something like this while I was in stage 1!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect summary of the stages and the power available to every parent. I wish I had read something like this while I was in stage 1!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
