Comments on: Embassy Guidance on I600-related Issue http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/ A collaborative blog advocating ethics in adoption Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:45:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Heather http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1004 Heather Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:15:43 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1004 Christina - After reading his blog for over a year now I find he gives facts not opinions. It also seems like he meets with Vietnam officials .....he just seems like a get resource. He also has said many times over that his blog is not a reflection of the agency he works for. I have also never read anything he has written to try to "promote" the agency he works for. I was just wondering your take on him and his commitment to the Vietnam program. I think it is wonderful and I know his readers would agree. He has been very helpful. Christina -
After reading his blog for over a year now I find he gives facts not opinions. It also seems like he meets with Vietnam officials …..he just seems like a get resource. He also has said many times over that his blog is not a reflection of the agency he works for.
I have also never read anything he has written to try to “promote” the agency he works for.
I was just wondering your take on him and his commitment to the Vietnam program. I think it is wonderful and I know his readers would agree. He has been very helpful.

]]> By: Christina http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1003 Christina Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:53:20 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1003 Heather, I'm not sure what you mean by our "take"? He's an agency employee, they have a program in Vietnam, it sounds like his job has moved him to Vietnam. We don't comment on what other agencies do with their staff, why would we comment on what Orphans Overseas does? Personally, I think it's great when any agency shares insights from Vietnam - cultural or related to their adoption program. Heather, I’m not sure what you mean by our “take”? He’s an agency employee, they have a program in Vietnam, it sounds like his job has moved him to Vietnam. We don’t comment on what other agencies do with their staff, why would we comment on what Orphans Overseas does?
Personally, I think it’s great when any agency shares insights from Vietnam - cultural or related to their adoption program.

]]> By: Heather http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1002 Heather Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:16:50 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-1002 I was wondering you take on Tad (From Adoption Buzz) moving to Vietnam for a year ! http://www.adoptionbuzz.org/ He has a video post posted. I really find his info very helpful. I was wondering you take on Tad (From Adoption Buzz)
moving to Vietnam for a year !
http://www.adoptionbuzz.org/

He has a video post posted. I really find his info very helpful.

]]> By: Emma http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-999 Emma Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:27:00 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-999 I love Holt very much (however... cause some reasons I used another agency). No matter how your ASP figures out, the most important for filing I-600 petition is all necessary paperworks be ready. I guess Holt's families -who had I-600 clearance before VN approval- adopted older children who had passed the investigation done by local police, right? Although local police clearance letter is not required to show up, their investigations of your child origin are important step to make sure, for VN sides, the ethical of your adoption. Please ask your ASP before your filing, unless you want to take a risk. I love Holt very much (however… cause some reasons I used another agency). No matter how your ASP figures out, the most important for filing I-600 petition is all necessary paperworks be ready. I guess Holt’s families -who had I-600 clearance before VN approval- adopted older children who had passed the investigation done by local police, right? Although local police clearance letter is not required to show up, their investigations of your child origin are important step to make sure, for VN sides, the ethical of your adoption. Please ask your ASP before your filing, unless you want to take a risk.

]]> By: shauna http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-998 shauna Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:23:41 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-998 Heather, Do you know if these families have contacted the HCMC adoption unit or the embassy to get an explanation? many thanks, Shauna Heather,
Do you know if these families have contacted the HCMC adoption unit or the embassy to get an explanation?

many thanks,
Shauna

]]> By: Tracy http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-996 Tracy Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:44:41 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-996 I hope (from the statement provided from the Embassy) that they are aware of which provinces this is a problem in and are contacting them to try to reach a resolution to this problem. Although I agree with the new I600 procedure and I think it would be nice for the Vietnamese provinces to recognize that this is a problem for the families and they are stuck in a difficult position and are willing to negotiate a solution. But saying all of that, it is our Embassy that enacted the new procedure (most likely without consulting the DIA or provinces first) and now that there is a conflict it's the Embassy that should be the one to correct this problem. Many of the orphanage directors (from what I have heard) and the DIA are upset with the way all of this has been handled in the first place, I can't imagine they are really receptive to changing their procedures and laws when they have not exactly been treated with respect or dignity (IMO) through all of this. I am sure this is their way of showing that we are guests in their country and we should be following their rules. The unfortunate part of all of this is it's the families (and babies) that are caught in the middle of this particular battle. Tracy I hope (from the statement provided from the Embassy) that they are aware of which provinces this is a problem in and are contacting them to try to reach a resolution to this problem. Although I agree with the new I600 procedure and I think it would be nice for the Vietnamese provinces to recognize that this is a problem for the families and they are stuck in a difficult position and are willing to negotiate a solution. But saying all of that, it is our Embassy that enacted the new procedure (most likely without consulting the DIA or provinces first) and now that there is a conflict it’s the Embassy that should be the one to correct this problem. Many of the orphanage directors (from what I have heard) and the DIA are upset with the way all of this has been handled in the first place, I can’t imagine they are really receptive to changing their procedures and laws when they have not exactly been treated with respect or dignity (IMO) through all of this. I am sure this is their way of showing that we are guests in their country and we should be following their rules. The unfortunate part of all of this is it’s the families (and babies) that are caught in the middle of this particular battle.

Tracy

]]> By: Gretchen http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-995 Gretchen Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:13:59 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-995 I second what Christina said. We also used Holt, and even in late 2006, Holt was having families file the I600s with their local USCIS offices (except, I believe, for Illinois, which refused to process them ) well before travel approval. If Holt can figure out how to do it, the rest of the ASPs can figure out how to do it. Gretchen I second what Christina said. We also used Holt, and even in late 2006, Holt was having families file the I600s with their local USCIS offices (except, I believe, for Illinois, which refused to process them ) well before travel approval. If Holt can figure out how to do it, the rest of the ASPs can figure out how to do it.

Gretchen

]]> By: Christina http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-994 Christina Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:08:30 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-994 Angie, The agency we used (Holt) is having families file their I600 as soon as they have all the necessary paperwork and I know of at least one family that already has I600 clearance well before they have VN clearance. (and in fact we filed our I600 in the US a good couple of months before we got VN approval back in the summer of '06... slightly different process then, but the same paperwork). So clearly it can be done and it's the ASP's job to figure out how to do it. Angie,
The agency we used (Holt) is having families file their I600 as soon as they have all the necessary paperwork and I know of at least one family that already has I600 clearance well before they have VN clearance. (and in fact we filed our I600 in the US a good couple of months before we got VN approval back in the summer of ‘06… slightly different process then, but the same paperwork). So clearly it can be done and it’s the ASP’s job to figure out how to do it.

]]> By: Heather http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-993 Heather Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:11:27 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-993 Well I know serveral families that are now on or past the 60 day mark with no word. Well I know serveral families that are now on or past the 60 day mark with no word.

]]> By: Angie http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-992 Angie Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:37:09 +0000 http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/01/16/embassy-guidance-on-i600-related-issue/#comment-992 Christina, You're right, it is IN THEORY! Most of ASPs do not want to take the risks when allow PAP file the I-600 petition prior to/ or even in parallel with the local police clearance and DIA 'passing through' for your child dossier. It is the FACT. So it will be a delay between VN and I-600 approval in almost cases, the point is long or short delay... Christina,
You’re right, it is IN THEORY!
Most of ASPs do not want to take the risks when allow PAP file the I-600 petition prior to/ or even in parallel with the local police clearance and DIA ‘passing through’ for your child dossier. It is the FACT. So it will be a delay between VN and I-600 approval in almost cases, the point is long or short delay…

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