<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Visa Issues in the News - NOID appeal successful</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/</link>
	<description>A collaborative blog advocating ethics in adoption</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1552</guid>
		<description>Hooray for Tommi!  This was Adoppt's first and only NOID and it was baseless.  They are a wonderful agency and I'm so glad that the truth is out!  They truly do so much for the children in Vietnam and I just wish that more people could see what they do over there--they are amazing people who give from their heart!  Hoping all the other baseless NOIDS are overturned soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for Tommi!  This was Adoppt&#8217;s first and only NOID and it was baseless.  They are a wonderful agency and I&#8217;m so glad that the truth is out!  They truly do so much for the children in Vietnam and I just wish that more people could see what they do over there&#8211;they are amazing people who give from their heart!  Hoping all the other baseless NOIDS are overturned soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nicki</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1523</guid>
		<description>Really? So the same could be said in reverse then, right? If they did not, say, hold up their end of the MOU and they did not follow their own laws or ours then we also do not have to follow their's?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? So the same could be said in reverse then, right? If they did not, say, hold up their end of the MOU and they did not follow their own laws or ours then we also do not have to follow their&#8217;s?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Voices for Vietnam Adoption Integrity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Searching for Answers</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1514</link>
		<dc:creator>Voices for Vietnam Adoption Integrity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Searching for Answers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1514</guid>
		<description>[...] trying to make sense of an extremely complex and seemingly ever-changing situation. But the discussion that grew out of those first comments last week has led me to change my mind, a little. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] trying to make sense of an extremely complex and seemingly ever-changing situation. But the discussion that grew out of those first comments last week has led me to change my mind, a little. I [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1513</guid>
		<description>I guess the bottom line for me is this:  if we share the goal of ethical adoptions, then we have all failed when adoptions are not taking place.  Now, 5 provinces, the largest birthing hospital in Vietnam, and two large orphanages in HCMC are blocked indefinitely.  No investigations, no determinations, many many referred children held, needlessly, in institutionalized care for a lack of information, not fraud.  The process seems to be far more about politics and (lack) of diplomacy than about the welfare of orphans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the bottom line for me is this:  if we share the goal of ethical adoptions, then we have all failed when adoptions are not taking place.  Now, 5 provinces, the largest birthing hospital in Vietnam, and two large orphanages in HCMC are blocked indefinitely.  No investigations, no determinations, many many referred children held, needlessly, in institutionalized care for a lack of information, not fraud.  The process seems to be far more about politics and (lack) of diplomacy than about the welfare of orphans.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: e.</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1512</guid>
		<description>Nicki, Thanks for taking the time to respond so thoroughly. I too think that we agree on some things, disagree on others. You gave me a lot to think about. I think that while the intentions of Orphans First are worthy,  there may not have been enough advance planning on how to achieve those goals and the methods being used are very flawed. Sometimes, good intentions go awry, as I believe has happened in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicki, Thanks for taking the time to respond so thoroughly. I too think that we agree on some things, disagree on others. You gave me a lot to think about. I think that while the intentions of Orphans First are worthy,  there may not have been enough advance planning on how to achieve those goals and the methods being used are very flawed. Sometimes, good intentions go awry, as I believe has happened in this situation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nike&#38;Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Nike&#38;Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1511</guid>
		<description>Nicki,
So sorry, I still don't agree with your explanation of our "investigating so aggressively BECAUSE of the corruption within the process on the Vietnam side". It seems no matter what our officers do to get information.
The point is CIS'd rather find the harmony than pull things to the impasse.
- Our laws: I-600 investigation must be completed
- Vietnam laws: inform in advance to External Affairs Office (details is not required)
If their laws is not respected, please do not ask them to respect yours.
Emma-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicki,<br />
So sorry, I still don&#8217;t agree with your explanation of our &#8220;investigating so aggressively BECAUSE of the corruption within the process on the Vietnam side&#8221;. It seems no matter what our officers do to get information.<br />
The point is CIS&#8217;d rather find the harmony than pull things to the impasse.<br />
- Our laws: I-600 investigation must be completed<br />
- Vietnam laws: inform in advance to External Affairs Office (details is not required)<br />
If their laws is not respected, please do not ask them to respect yours.<br />
Emma-</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nicki</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1510</guid>
		<description>In response by number:
1) You are absolutely right. If there is unjust or inappropriate behavior going on by our own government, as I've said before but will restate, we have an OBLIGATION to make our own government accountable. There are probably 100 sides to this particular issue, most of which few people are privy to becuase politics often ends up being such a tangled web of confusing back rubs and undercuts. But regardless, we do have an obligation to make sure our government is doing its job. I've never implied otherwise. Just know that what you consider inappropriate or pointless or even corrupt may differ from me. To wax political for a minute, think back to 2003 when we went to war in Iraq. Many people were on board and supported this governmental act, even though some thought it was inappropriate and a corrupt abuse of power. Fast forward several years and most people no longer support it, some newly agree it was a corrupt abuse of power, some still support it. On any headed global issue, there will always be many many views on what is or is not appropriate. I think you and I may sit on opposite sides of the fence about some issues of adoption ethics as they pertain to our own government and probably share the same side on others.

2) I'm not sure if they are or they aren't. I know these unannounced visits HAVE turned up issues that likely would have been hidden or covered up in the past and I also know that our own government has very little power to force corruption out. They are working within a VERY confined space but are doing SOMETHING because the situation demanded it and it is their obligation. Lots of people are doing things to make this stop from the big to the small. There's the government, PEAR, JCICS, Ethica, each person who writes their congressperson in favor of ethical adoptions or in support of or with new ideas that will create ethical adoptions, bloggers, advocates on email lists like APV, etc. And that's just a very few off the top of my head. Will any one do enough to exact fundamental change? Probably not which is why most of those groups recognize there is power in numbers and which is why most of those groups support the government initiative as PART of the solution. Hopefully it will all work together to make an impact but no one effort is likely to halt corruption. However the points you bring up (slowness) are not points I've addressed. I was specifically referring to the unannounced investigations and the inability to complete an orphan petition due to the restriction of these investigations. Now talk to me about paperwork sitting collecting dust, only being looked at 2 days a week, being misfiled, lost, mismanaged, etc and I have an entirely different set of opinions. I happen to feel the investigations ARE important. I happen to think that if the US is committed to this Orphans First initiative then they should do it all the way and not just when it fits in their otherwise full job descriptions. THAT I will advocate for, absolutely. Not on this sight becuase, again, it doesn't fit the direction of this site and it detracts from the point that this initiative was driven by corrupt agency practices, fundamentally. But I will do it all on my own as a parent who believes our government should be held accountable just like I advocated for my old home state to get some additional staff in and approve I600a applications in a reasonable time frame. But I will disagree about one thing. They did NOT originally state it was only red flags and it was never dealt with that way. They have always stated that investigations will be the rule, not the exception, for the time being. And I am in complete support of that, honestly. 

3) This is maybe the most complicated issue you bring up. I have mixed feelings. Part of me feels that, absolutely, we should have a right to know where our information is, when it is being processed, how it is being processed, etc. However I also understand that it has the potential to disrupt an on-going investigation if that information is shared. It would defy the point of impromptu investigations to tell the parents that they are still waiting in line for their impromptu investigation! :) If there are issues, it definitely would be inappropriate to share those issues until an investigation is complete and a decision is made. Keep in mind that PAPs are not those most affected here - the babies are and they know nothing before, during or after. We are secondary parties to these petitions.  But I also can't imagine waiting in limbo without information and I think a middle ground can and should be reached.

Your bottom line may be right on, not becuase the initiative is inherently pointless but becuase it is a global issue and no matter how powerful we like to think our little corner of the globe is, we do not have the power to single-handedly curb such a gigantic issue (especially when it is still occurring within our own borders!). But we spent years watching corruption take place and reaching out to ask our government to do something - anything - to stop it or slow it down and I believe they are acting in response to that. And of course now we don't like it, are agnry it is affecting us, are angry it isn't effective enough against corruption. But no one is proposing more viable alternatives, better ideas, clearer paths to ethical adoptions. Most people who are complaining the most will disappear the minute they bring their own child home. This isn't just obvious to us here - it is obvious to all parties in this adoption process and I think it speaks much louder than all the phone calls and petitions in the world. What it says is "I didn't really care about anything but MY baby and now I have him/her so I'm happy." All that work done while they were frustrated and angry? Right out the window! Of those that hang around after their babies are home, many people who are complaining the loudest fail to offer action plans to curb what they do not like or fail to involve themselves in a more active capacity in one of the many movements or groups that HAVE acted.  

We can not control what Ireland or France or Australia does in Vietnam. We can support those who advocate for global action. Or we can focus on what we CAN control. Or we can make our own government the Enemy because they are the ones we perceive to be between us and the Gold. Or we can turn a blind eye to it all. At the end of the day each of us has to decide if that's good enough or, if not, what we are prepared to do in order to fight for global change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response by number:<br />
1) You are absolutely right. If there is unjust or inappropriate behavior going on by our own government, as I&#8217;ve said before but will restate, we have an OBLIGATION to make our own government accountable. There are probably 100 sides to this particular issue, most of which few people are privy to becuase politics often ends up being such a tangled web of confusing back rubs and undercuts. But regardless, we do have an obligation to make sure our government is doing its job. I&#8217;ve never implied otherwise. Just know that what you consider inappropriate or pointless or even corrupt may differ from me. To wax political for a minute, think back to 2003 when we went to war in Iraq. Many people were on board and supported this governmental act, even though some thought it was inappropriate and a corrupt abuse of power. Fast forward several years and most people no longer support it, some newly agree it was a corrupt abuse of power, some still support it. On any headed global issue, there will always be many many views on what is or is not appropriate. I think you and I may sit on opposite sides of the fence about some issues of adoption ethics as they pertain to our own government and probably share the same side on others.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m not sure if they are or they aren&#8217;t. I know these unannounced visits HAVE turned up issues that likely would have been hidden or covered up in the past and I also know that our own government has very little power to force corruption out. They are working within a VERY confined space but are doing SOMETHING because the situation demanded it and it is their obligation. Lots of people are doing things to make this stop from the big to the small. There&#8217;s the government, PEAR, JCICS, Ethica, each person who writes their congressperson in favor of ethical adoptions or in support of or with new ideas that will create ethical adoptions, bloggers, advocates on email lists like APV, etc. And that&#8217;s just a very few off the top of my head. Will any one do enough to exact fundamental change? Probably not which is why most of those groups recognize there is power in numbers and which is why most of those groups support the government initiative as PART of the solution. Hopefully it will all work together to make an impact but no one effort is likely to halt corruption. However the points you bring up (slowness) are not points I&#8217;ve addressed. I was specifically referring to the unannounced investigations and the inability to complete an orphan petition due to the restriction of these investigations. Now talk to me about paperwork sitting collecting dust, only being looked at 2 days a week, being misfiled, lost, mismanaged, etc and I have an entirely different set of opinions. I happen to feel the investigations ARE important. I happen to think that if the US is committed to this Orphans First initiative then they should do it all the way and not just when it fits in their otherwise full job descriptions. THAT I will advocate for, absolutely. Not on this sight becuase, again, it doesn&#8217;t fit the direction of this site and it detracts from the point that this initiative was driven by corrupt agency practices, fundamentally. But I will do it all on my own as a parent who believes our government should be held accountable just like I advocated for my old home state to get some additional staff in and approve I600a applications in a reasonable time frame. But I will disagree about one thing. They did NOT originally state it was only red flags and it was never dealt with that way. They have always stated that investigations will be the rule, not the exception, for the time being. And I am in complete support of that, honestly. </p>
<p>3) This is maybe the most complicated issue you bring up. I have mixed feelings. Part of me feels that, absolutely, we should have a right to know where our information is, when it is being processed, how it is being processed, etc. However I also understand that it has the potential to disrupt an on-going investigation if that information is shared. It would defy the point of impromptu investigations to tell the parents that they are still waiting in line for their impromptu investigation! <img src='http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> If there are issues, it definitely would be inappropriate to share those issues until an investigation is complete and a decision is made. Keep in mind that PAPs are not those most affected here - the babies are and they know nothing before, during or after. We are secondary parties to these petitions.  But I also can&#8217;t imagine waiting in limbo without information and I think a middle ground can and should be reached.</p>
<p>Your bottom line may be right on, not becuase the initiative is inherently pointless but becuase it is a global issue and no matter how powerful we like to think our little corner of the globe is, we do not have the power to single-handedly curb such a gigantic issue (especially when it is still occurring within our own borders!). But we spent years watching corruption take place and reaching out to ask our government to do something - anything - to stop it or slow it down and I believe they are acting in response to that. And of course now we don&#8217;t like it, are agnry it is affecting us, are angry it isn&#8217;t effective enough against corruption. But no one is proposing more viable alternatives, better ideas, clearer paths to ethical adoptions. Most people who are complaining the most will disappear the minute they bring their own child home. This isn&#8217;t just obvious to us here - it is obvious to all parties in this adoption process and I think it speaks much louder than all the phone calls and petitions in the world. What it says is &#8220;I didn&#8217;t really care about anything but MY baby and now I have him/her so I&#8217;m happy.&#8221; All that work done while they were frustrated and angry? Right out the window! Of those that hang around after their babies are home, many people who are complaining the loudest fail to offer action plans to curb what they do not like or fail to involve themselves in a more active capacity in one of the many movements or groups that HAVE acted.  </p>
<p>We can not control what Ireland or France or Australia does in Vietnam. We can support those who advocate for global action. Or we can focus on what we CAN control. Or we can make our own government the Enemy because they are the ones we perceive to be between us and the Gold. Or we can turn a blind eye to it all. At the end of the day each of us has to decide if that&#8217;s good enough or, if not, what we are prepared to do in order to fight for global change.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nicki</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1509</guid>
		<description>To reply from the bottom up, I'm not sure I understand all of your statements but to answer from how I interpret what I think you mean - yes I do think that every single agency can and should have contact with their orphanages, absolutely. If they can not or do not, there are serious fundamental flaws with their Vietnam program. 

I understand it is a foreign government but when discussing this issue we tend to put the cart before the horse and forget that the US government is investigating so aggressively BECAUSE of the corruption within the process on the Vietnam side (which some agencies knew of and were a party to - they brought the business after all). If we want to be outraged, we should aim our outrage at the agencies that made this all possible, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reply from the bottom up, I&#8217;m not sure I understand all of your statements but to answer from how I interpret what I think you mean - yes I do think that every single agency can and should have contact with their orphanages, absolutely. If they can not or do not, there are serious fundamental flaws with their Vietnam program. </p>
<p>I understand it is a foreign government but when discussing this issue we tend to put the cart before the horse and forget that the US government is investigating so aggressively BECAUSE of the corruption within the process on the Vietnam side (which some agencies knew of and were a party to - they brought the business after all). If we want to be outraged, we should aim our outrage at the agencies that made this all possible, so to speak.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nike&#38;Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>Nike&#38;Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1507</guid>
		<description>Nicki,
You should think more fairly in this. In every country, their own government has the rights to visit unannounced the restaurants, orphanages or hospitals, etc. located in their country to inspect. However, please remember we are talking about the unannounced investigations done by FOREIGN consular officers. My thought is that foreigners in Vietnam are not allowed to go and do the interrogations without approval of External affairs office (to prevent spy, I guess). I do not see any injustice in my comparison of VN gov as a host and USCIS as a guest.
Besides, the information the External affairs office requests USCIS to inform in advance very simple such as purpose, which province, who go, from when to when and means, no more details. So why did our gov. not inform them for approval then use the specialist skills in interrogation to find out the truth? Why did our gov. insist to proceed in the way that broken Vietnam laws and caused an impasse in provinces now?
I am just calling people think about the children' best benefit.
As for agencies with investigations, I have no idea about it. Do you really think that agencies have contacts and prepared with orphanages and hospitals to cope with USCIS visit?
Emma-

Please think fairly and do ethically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicki,<br />
You should think more fairly in this. In every country, their own government has the rights to visit unannounced the restaurants, orphanages or hospitals, etc. located in their country to inspect. However, please remember we are talking about the unannounced investigations done by FOREIGN consular officers. My thought is that foreigners in Vietnam are not allowed to go and do the interrogations without approval of External affairs office (to prevent spy, I guess). I do not see any injustice in my comparison of VN gov as a host and USCIS as a guest.<br />
Besides, the information the External affairs office requests USCIS to inform in advance very simple such as purpose, which province, who go, from when to when and means, no more details. So why did our gov. not inform them for approval then use the specialist skills in interrogation to find out the truth? Why did our gov. insist to proceed in the way that broken Vietnam laws and caused an impasse in provinces now?<br />
I am just calling people think about the children&#8217; best benefit.<br />
As for agencies with investigations, I have no idea about it. Do you really think that agencies have contacts and prepared with orphanages and hospitals to cope with USCIS visit?<br />
Emma-</p>
<p>Please think fairly and do ethically.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: e.</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2008/03/22/visa-issues-in-the-news-noid-appeal-successful-3/#comment-1506</guid>
		<description>First of all, I'm not sure how you define a close guesstimate regarding when the USCIS will show up when some petitions are taking up to 100 days. Sure, the orphanages or hospitals can be told that "sometime in the next 3 months" an investigator might show up but that's awfully vague.
Nevertheless, my points remain:
1. The USCIS is not handling the situation in a way that encourages any cooperation from the VN provincial officials, orphanage &#38; hospital directors, etc. There are many reports of rudeness, cultural insensitivity, etc. I don't find them hard to believe. If you really want to complete an investigation thoroughly and in a timely fashion, don't you want to have cooperation from those you are investigating? I would assume that working together would be the goal. Apparently, that's not happening much. Both sides blame each other. Again, I have to go back to the fact that USCIS is no model of professionalism. We have the DHS's history with FEMA and several recent stories of scandal (such as the USCIS agent who was selling green cards for sex...). 
2. If the goal is to end corruption in adoption, HOW are these investigations achieving that? Most cases are being approved -- some after 2 months of delays and no investigation even completed. This effort by the USCIS may "discourage" some traffickers from bringing babies to orphanages where US agencies operate, but don't you think those babies will now just be referred to other countries? In my opinion, the key to stopping the trafficking would be a joint effort with the Vietnamese police and other countries. I just don't see how this I600 business is helping to stop corruption. Many innocent players are being hurt in the process - too many babies are waiting who may have no issue in their paperwork at all. Originally they said they were going to investigate cases with red flags; now it's all cases, except when it's not.
3. Why can't this be done with more communication to the PAPs? I can't imagine waiting in limbo with so little information, no matter what's going on. How are we, as PAPs, to make a decision about continuing the process if they won't even tell us what's going on, what they're finding, etc. It's all a big mystery and the future of our families is being held hostage by a few USCIS employees who are now "experts" on adoption paperwork.

The bottom line for me is that if one is concerned with adoption ethics, I don't see how these new procedures are helping. I just don't buy it. I think it's a pointless, meaningless and futile exercise that will only frustrate parents, harm babies and send the traffickers scurrying over to other provinces, other countries. In fact, given that this is the USCIS we're talking about, it really reminds me of their efforts to keep undocumented immigrants out of this country -- they still seem to get across the border, don't they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I&#8217;m not sure how you define a close guesstimate regarding when the USCIS will show up when some petitions are taking up to 100 days. Sure, the orphanages or hospitals can be told that &#8220;sometime in the next 3 months&#8221; an investigator might show up but that&#8217;s awfully vague.<br />
Nevertheless, my points remain:<br />
1. The USCIS is not handling the situation in a way that encourages any cooperation from the VN provincial officials, orphanage &amp; hospital directors, etc. There are many reports of rudeness, cultural insensitivity, etc. I don&#8217;t find them hard to believe. If you really want to complete an investigation thoroughly and in a timely fashion, don&#8217;t you want to have cooperation from those you are investigating? I would assume that working together would be the goal. Apparently, that&#8217;s not happening much. Both sides blame each other. Again, I have to go back to the fact that USCIS is no model of professionalism. We have the DHS&#8217;s history with FEMA and several recent stories of scandal (such as the USCIS agent who was selling green cards for sex&#8230;).<br />
2. If the goal is to end corruption in adoption, HOW are these investigations achieving that? Most cases are being approved &#8212; some after 2 months of delays and no investigation even completed. This effort by the USCIS may &#8220;discourage&#8221; some traffickers from bringing babies to orphanages where US agencies operate, but don&#8217;t you think those babies will now just be referred to other countries? In my opinion, the key to stopping the trafficking would be a joint effort with the Vietnamese police and other countries. I just don&#8217;t see how this I600 business is helping to stop corruption. Many innocent players are being hurt in the process - too many babies are waiting who may have no issue in their paperwork at all. Originally they said they were going to investigate cases with red flags; now it&#8217;s all cases, except when it&#8217;s not.<br />
3. Why can&#8217;t this be done with more communication to the PAPs? I can&#8217;t imagine waiting in limbo with so little information, no matter what&#8217;s going on. How are we, as PAPs, to make a decision about continuing the process if they won&#8217;t even tell us what&#8217;s going on, what they&#8217;re finding, etc. It&#8217;s all a big mystery and the future of our families is being held hostage by a few USCIS employees who are now &#8220;experts&#8221; on adoption paperwork.</p>
<p>The bottom line for me is that if one is concerned with adoption ethics, I don&#8217;t see how these new procedures are helping. I just don&#8217;t buy it. I think it&#8217;s a pointless, meaningless and futile exercise that will only frustrate parents, harm babies and send the traffickers scurrying over to other provinces, other countries. In fact, given that this is the USCIS we&#8217;re talking about, it really reminds me of their efforts to keep undocumented immigrants out of this country &#8212; they still seem to get across the border, don&#8217;t they?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
