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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2891</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I am late to this thread but thought I would comment anyway.

I think everyone (including celebrities) needs to adhere to the guidelines set by the child&#039;s birth country when completing an IA.  I have no problem with Madonna or any other celebrity adopting a child, but I don&#039;t understand why she had to choose a country that does not allow foreign adoption (set by the 18 mo. residency rule).  There are thousands of African children that are legitimately needing homes whose countries/orphanages participate in IA-choose one of them.  

If she went to Malawi to provide aid to the country and fell in love with the children-then she should have funnelled how ever much money she could into the country to provide the children with a better life.  The grandmother obviously was not open to adoption-so if she felt a special connection to this little girl then help the grandmother financially-she would have indirectly benefited 6 other grand children also.

These children are not souvenirs-you don&#039;t get to see a cute one and decide you want to take them home.  She could have helped this child and chosen a different country (one that has an IA program) to adopt from and none of this would be an issue right now.   

I am not anti-adoption and do not think all children belong in their birth countries.  I do however think it&#039;s important for AP&#039;s (celebrities and non-celebrities alike) to honor the host countries rules and regulations-and in this case Malawi is not a country open to IA (unless you are a super rich celebrity I guess).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I am late to this thread but thought I would comment anyway.</p>
<p>I think everyone (including celebrities) needs to adhere to the guidelines set by the child&#8217;s birth country when completing an IA.  I have no problem with Madonna or any other celebrity adopting a child, but I don&#8217;t understand why she had to choose a country that does not allow foreign adoption (set by the 18 mo. residency rule).  There are thousands of African children that are legitimately needing homes whose countries/orphanages participate in IA-choose one of them.  </p>
<p>If she went to Malawi to provide aid to the country and fell in love with the children-then she should have funnelled how ever much money she could into the country to provide the children with a better life.  The grandmother obviously was not open to adoption-so if she felt a special connection to this little girl then help the grandmother financially-she would have indirectly benefited 6 other grand children also.</p>
<p>These children are not souvenirs-you don&#8217;t get to see a cute one and decide you want to take them home.  She could have helped this child and chosen a different country (one that has an IA program) to adopt from and none of this would be an issue right now.   </p>
<p>I am not anti-adoption and do not think all children belong in their birth countries.  I do however think it&#8217;s important for AP&#8217;s (celebrities and non-celebrities alike) to honor the host countries rules and regulations-and in this case Malawi is not a country open to IA (unless you are a super rich celebrity I guess).</p>
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		<title>By: Linh</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2834</link>
		<dc:creator>Linh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Madonna has dual citizenship in the U.K. and U.S.  That&#039;s most likely the reason as to why USCIS hasn&#039;t intervened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Madonna has dual citizenship in the U.K. and U.S.  That&#8217;s most likely the reason as to why USCIS hasn&#8217;t intervened.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is full of many mis-truths as speculations. This child&#039;s grandmother left her at the orphanage shortly after birth because she could not afford to support her. Had the family been responsible enough to tell the baby&#039;s father he had a child (and my best guess would be he knew all along and didn&#039;t step up to care for his daughter) this adoption may be a non-issue. The bottom line is this little girl has been in an orphanage because no one is willing to raise her. In a country where she has an expected life span of 43 years, I applaud Madonna (a woman I&#039;m not of fan of by the way) for stepping up and offering this child a viable chance at a long, happy life. As for this blog, based on this article, I no longer believe what is printed here. Check facts before you write an article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is full of many mis-truths as speculations. This child&#8217;s grandmother left her at the orphanage shortly after birth because she could not afford to support her. Had the family been responsible enough to tell the baby&#8217;s father he had a child (and my best guess would be he knew all along and didn&#8217;t step up to care for his daughter) this adoption may be a non-issue. The bottom line is this little girl has been in an orphanage because no one is willing to raise her. In a country where she has an expected life span of 43 years, I applaud Madonna (a woman I&#8217;m not of fan of by the way) for stepping up and offering this child a viable chance at a long, happy life. As for this blog, based on this article, I no longer believe what is printed here. Check facts before you write an article.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2749</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the AP, the Supreme Court stated about residency that &quot;Madonna was in Malawi not by chance but by intention. She is looking after several orphans whose welfare depends on her...&quot; (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hXVf1Dez3uKIDscVWBPhyHkZ1f4QD98P36C80)  Even more blunt,  there are reports that Madonna contributed between $12 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/madonna/5522159/Madonna-donated-12-million-to-Malawi.html) and $19 (http://www.examiner.com/x-7371-LA-Blended-Families-Examiner~y2009m6d14-Madonnas-adoption-cost-19-million-Mercys-dad-to-fight-adoption) MILLION dollars to Malawi through her charity there &lt;i&gt;while awaiting the Supreme Court&#039;s decision&lt;/i&gt;  Bella is right -- where is USCIS now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the AP, the Supreme Court stated about residency that &#8220;Madonna was in Malawi not by chance but by intention. She is looking after several orphans whose welfare depends on her&#8230;&#8221; (<a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hXVf1Dez3uKIDscVWBPhyHkZ1f4QD98P36C80" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hXVf1Dez3uKIDscVWBPhyHkZ1f4QD98P36C80</a>)  Even more blunt,  there are reports that Madonna contributed between $12 (<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/madonna/5522159/Madonna-donated-12-million-to-Malawi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/madonna/5522159/Madonna-donated-12-million-to-Malawi.html</a>) and $19 (<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7371-LA-Blended-Families-Examiner~y2009m6d14-Madonnas-adoption-cost-19-million-Mercys-dad-to-fight-adoption" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/x-7371-LA-Blended-Families-Examiner~y2009m6d14-Madonnas-adoption-cost-19-million-Mercys-dad-to-fight-adoption</a>) MILLION dollars to Malawi through her charity there <i>while awaiting the Supreme Court&#8217;s decision</i>  Bella is right &#8212; where is USCIS now?</p>
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		<title>By: bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then it seems that CIS should be with holding approval until DNA testing is completed and Mercy&#039;s father signs relinquishment papers (if he so chooses). They were adamant about it in Vietnam, as well as re investigating cases so where is CIS and the Dept. of State NOW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then it seems that CIS should be with holding approval until DNA testing is completed and Mercy&#8217;s father signs relinquishment papers (if he so chooses). They were adamant about it in Vietnam, as well as re investigating cases so where is CIS and the Dept. of State NOW?</p>
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		<title>By: The Madonna Effect &#171; My Minivan Rocks!</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>The Madonna Effect &#171; My Minivan Rocks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can read my thoughts about it here, but please also check out Christina&#8217;s post on Voices for Vietnam Adoption Integrity and this opinion piece titled &#8220;Misguided Madonna&#8217;s just helping the baby [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can read my thoughts about it here, but please also check out Christina&#8217;s post on Voices for Vietnam Adoption Integrity and this opinion piece titled &#8220;Misguided Madonna&#8217;s just helping the baby [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how it is that Mercy will be given a US visa when the alleged father was never allowed to have DNA testing done. In Vietnam, we saw this done at the expense of prospective adoptive parents. How is it that Madonna is allowed to adopt and get a visa without testing, when the average PAP would have been given an RFE or a NOID?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how it is that Mercy will be given a US visa when the alleged father was never allowed to have DNA testing done. In Vietnam, we saw this done at the expense of prospective adoptive parents. How is it that Madonna is allowed to adopt and get a visa without testing, when the average PAP would have been given an RFE or a NOID?</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the father, the grandmother wanted to care for her. As Christina quoted in this post:

 &quot;The story locally is that Lucy, the grandmother … refused to let Mercy be adopted by Madonna. And for three years - from that day in 2006 until about four weeks ago - Lucy remained implacable, resisting approaches from priests, people from the orphanage and other people she had never seen before, to persuade her to let Mercy go.

However tough Lucy has been in resisting Madonna, Madonna has been tougher. She never gave up on adopting Mercy - not least because no one tells Madonna she cannot have what she wants. And now, after years of being told that adoption was the right thing for Mercy, Lucy caved in. In Malawi, she is an old woman and she had had enough.&quot;

It is difficult for us to understand that a family might place a child in an orphanage for temporary care, but this is common in other countries. It happened in Vietnam as well. Familes who placed their children in orphanages with the understanding that it was a temporary arrangement had those children adopted out from under them. That was the case with Mercy. The grandmother fully intended to get Mercy back. She just needed help, and the orphanage was supposed to be a temporary arrangement, but now she has lost Mercy forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the father, the grandmother wanted to care for her. As Christina quoted in this post:</p>
<p> &#8220;The story locally is that Lucy, the grandmother … refused to let Mercy be adopted by Madonna. And for three years &#8211; from that day in 2006 until about four weeks ago &#8211; Lucy remained implacable, resisting approaches from priests, people from the orphanage and other people she had never seen before, to persuade her to let Mercy go.</p>
<p>However tough Lucy has been in resisting Madonna, Madonna has been tougher. She never gave up on adopting Mercy &#8211; not least because no one tells Madonna she cannot have what she wants. And now, after years of being told that adoption was the right thing for Mercy, Lucy caved in. In Malawi, she is an old woman and she had had enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is difficult for us to understand that a family might place a child in an orphanage for temporary care, but this is common in other countries. It happened in Vietnam as well. Familes who placed their children in orphanages with the understanding that it was a temporary arrangement had those children adopted out from under them. That was the case with Mercy. The grandmother fully intended to get Mercy back. She just needed help, and the orphanage was supposed to be a temporary arrangement, but now she has lost Mercy forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.adoptionintegrity.com/2009/06/18/the-madonna-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie-

From what I&#039;ve read, she met Mercy at the same time she met David Banda. She was not able to complete the adoption at that time because the grandmother would not give permission, but has been working on it ever since. 

I agree in that I feel it would have been &quot;less wrong&quot; if the child she adopted did not have family who could have cared for her. There are plenty of TRUE orphans in Malawi from among whom Madonna could have &quot;chosen.&quot; 

Tracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie-</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, she met Mercy at the same time she met David Banda. She was not able to complete the adoption at that time because the grandmother would not give permission, but has been working on it ever since. </p>
<p>I agree in that I feel it would have been &#8220;less wrong&#8221; if the child she adopted did not have family who could have cared for her. There are plenty of TRUE orphans in Malawi from among whom Madonna could have &#8220;chosen.&#8221; </p>
<p>Tracy</p>
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		<title>By: Nicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy&#039;s grandmother finally gave up after 3 years of being aggressively pressured to relinquish. she signed papers last month. The father, however, never even got his day in court. He wasn&#039;t able to arrange DNA testing which would have allowed him to claim her before the court approved the adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy&#8217;s grandmother finally gave up after 3 years of being aggressively pressured to relinquish. she signed papers last month. The father, however, never even got his day in court. He wasn&#8217;t able to arrange DNA testing which would have allowed him to claim her before the court approved the adoption.</p>
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